Be sure to check out my vid on youtube
My hair was freshly washed
I usedCreme of Nature leave in moistirizer- no oils
It took me 8 hrs - with help for about 3 hrs
I used about 6 packs- colors 1b, 2, 4
I'm 5' 5"
Dipped in Boiling water
Like, why not go super long?? :)